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Semantic Web 2.0

Attended a talk today by Stefan Decker of DERI in Ireland this morning. “Semantic Web 2.0” was the title of the talk–and I think Stefan wins the Most Buzzwords in a Talk Title award.

I must admit when I came into the talk that I was a bit skeptical–Semantic Web 1.0 never got off the ground (not the way the WWW did, at least!), so are we really ready for a 2.0?

Stefan is of the view that Semantic Web (1.0) never took off at the time because we didn’t have the tools and connectedness for it to reach critical mass of adopters and ease of use. It was like “people dreaming of building a fighter jet when they only have parts to make a bicycle”, as he puts it.

So, I guess with all this Ajax and social networking and folksonomic whatnot, we finally have the tools to help the Semantic Web really succeed? He thinks so. Oh, that I could be so optimistic!

Snarkiness aside, here’s some of the goals he sees within SemWeb 2.0:

  • semantic interlikning of online community sites
  • semantic blogging
  • semantic wikis (structuring and browsing the web and desktop)
  • social semantic collaborative filtering (using explicit relationships for information delivering and assessment)

A few short notes on each of these:

“Semantically-Interliinked Online Communities (SIOC)”

  • motivation: there’s lots of latent information to be gleaned from all these socially enabled websites, but this information is hidden (there’s the underlying database, but all we see is the HTML. We can write wrappers, but when HTML changes we’re sore outta luck).
  • SIOC is trying to expose the underlying structure via RDF, via plugins
  • this stuff is getting integrated into lots of open source projects via plugins (phpBB, wordpress, drupal, more)

Semantic Blogging

  • instead of just blogging for human eyes, blog for machine eyes too. e.g. automatically tag ppl with foaf info, or events with event xml, so that ppl can automatically add events to calendar or ppl to address book
  • While this might be useful, I’m not sure if it will be the panacaea that its proponents claim. And, how are you going to get everyone to agree on standards? Are Microsoft, Google, and all the rest of the biggies going to agree to cooperate?

Semantic Wikis

  • Addresses traditional wiki problems of structured access and information re-use
  • of all the things he’s talking about, i think this one has the most potential for immediate adoption–in fact, it’s already being adopted in the small picture: categories and templates on wikipedia.
  • However, I’m not sold on it being implemented on the grander scale. It looks like a lot of work, both for the readers and writers of the information (tools will make this easier, granted), but I also don’t think it will have the reader-base that eyeball wikis have. And I suspect it will be harder to motivate people to contribute information (more detached/less “social”)

Perhaps I’m being overly harsh. I WANT this to work, though. I’d love to see all this happening. But, I’m afraid it’s all a new re-release of the old “Semantic Web 1.0” hype, with a shiny new rounded-corners, pastel-colored-gradient logo (and a “beta” on the side to boot). We’ll see…

If we are going to get a successful “Semantic Web 2.0”, I think we need to take a few lessons from the successes of the social software that has succeeded (these unfortunately were not described in the talk):

  • Be Bottom-Up: Like folksonomy, don’t rely on the Powers that Be (W3C, Microsoft, Google, whoever) to set standards. Instead, let consensus bubble-up, folksonomy style. Users are lazy, so make doing the Right Thing easier than the Divergent Thing (see del.icio.us’s auto-suggest of tag labels for a good example of hwo this works). The big thing I’ve been wondering lately is if we can have a folksonomy of standards as well as a folksonomy of data–Will this work??
  • Be Top-Down: Find a use that everyone really needs/wants, and they’ll jump through the hoops. Drawing from the Folksonomy example again, look at what Del and Flickr have done… Users are all functioning selfishly–they want to store their pictures and their bookmarks, and when they tag things, a lot of the time they’re only doing it for personal use. The folksonomic patterns bubble up on their own.

7 Comments

  1. The Semantic MediaWiki (http://ontoworld.org) is an eyeball-wiki which makes some of it’s content machine-accessible. So it’s not an either-or question. Take a look and judge yourself what will happen when Wikipedia adds this MediaWiki extension to their site.

    Posted on 27-Aug-06 at 04:08 | Permalink
  2. mote

    I totally agree that it’s not an either-or, Max. Even the categories and templates already in MediaWiki provide both human-readable and machine-scrapable data…

    The Semantic MediaWiki approach takes it a step further, and it does it in a really nice way. I remember the Jot Wiki announcing something similiar a year or two ago (unfortunately, jot is neither free nor Free, as far as software goes).

    For me, the most compelling thing about Semantic MediaWiki is that users are able to edit both the structure of information and the information itself (see the page for Laptop versus the page for Template:Laptop). However, I’m not sure how well this will play out in the long run. What I mean is: the templates (creating the structure of data) are editable–and this is a desirable thing–but what happens to the old data when the structure changes? It becomes a little less useful and a little harder to machine-process. Also, designing structure by committee can be a lot harder than defining content (it’s a lot easier to define “OBJECT is a CATEGORY” (e.g. a Honda Civic is a Car with x miles-per-gallon and y weight) than to define exactly what characteristics a car should have). Each user will have a different idea of what characteristics should and should not be included, and what they should be named. I suspect agreeing on stable templates will be a lot harder than creating instances of the templates. And this is dangerous, because it’s the templates, the definition of data structure, that make the system practically usable.

    Are there any thoughts/solutions to this?

    Posted on 27-Aug-06 at 09:48 | Permalink
  3. Please read the latest post on my Blog about Data Spaces. The Semantic Web is already here. All of your viral bootstrapping examples re. tagging/folksononmy etc.. are extremely valid, and note that the same process is well in motion re. the Semantic Web.

    This viral explosion is a Man (RSS 2.0 driven Web 2.0) vs Machine (Semantic / Data Web or Web 3.0) type affair. Man cannot work faster than machines, but Man can reason much better than machines. Ironically, the current Web 2.0 state of affairs has this reality the wrong way round, but the realization will be the very inflection upon which the unravelling of the Semantic Web occurs.

    The Semantic Web brings Context to the broad mass of Content across the Blogosphere, Wikispehere, and Web in general. Shared ontologies such as SIOC and FOAF are examples of critical infrastructure missing in Semantic Web 1.0.

    Posted on 30-Aug-06 at 10:48 | Permalink
  4. Hmm the Semantic Web allready here? Partly I guess, could be an interesting research topic. The driven Web 2.0 and next (3.0) is still under heavy construction…

    Posted on 03-Sep-06 at 23:26 | Permalink
  5. as the Semantic web was part of the original vision of the Web, perhaps we are in version 0.3 heading towards Web 1.0

    Posted on 08-Oct-06 at 11:43 | Permalink
  6. mote

    Alex, that is easily the most rational, realistic, and well-adjusted long-term view about the semantic web that I have ever heard.

    Posted on 08-Oct-06 at 15:33 | Permalink
  7. Thanks, the feedback is helpful, as it can be incorporated as a “slogan” for Semantic Web evangelism.

    So many layers of the semantic web stack, such as digital signatures, logic processing, are years away, but SIOC has the most groundbreaking implementation I have seen in 6 years of semweb watching.

    Posted on 10-Oct-06 at 12:24 | Permalink